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Is Mituski too young for her love? (*Full Moon Spoiler!*)
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Encu (#21574)
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 Is Mituski too young for her love? (*Full Moon Spoiler!*)

Someone formally posted something along these lines in their review, and it is something that bothered me for a while throughout the series...

I felt odd watching Mituski love those boys so much, although their age differences are not so great when you think about it (she is 12, Eichi and Takuto are 16, only 4 years apart!), but...

Pardon me for ... whatever I should be excused for, at that age I was just playing around with the thought of girls, just barely becoming interested in them as romantic figures, yet Mituski fell in ultra-serious love with Eichi at 7? I felt that their relationship would have been more believable as siblingly...

I suppose I'm questioning a love theme which pervades EVERY anime? .... I think I just felt it more in Full Moon than others.

It's something that bugged me, so I'm asking (you) who might know... is it normal for a girl to feel so strongly to someone, romantically, at such a young age?

As for boys loving seriously at 16, I can empathize with that :p although I suppose it would take a near death experience... er... or full-death experience to bring out such strong emotions Smile
just kidding... I suppose by then I was feeling strong emotions towards girls already... I don't want to bring up my personal life more though Smile

Anyway, the poster said that he found the people falling in love with Mituski "so much older", while watching, I thought of it more as, they were all just too young to have been in such powerfully romantic situations... I suppose at some time watching the series I just accepted her feelings (suspension of disbelief .........)

So? Did something along these lines bother you? Can any of you help me figure out what? Or why??!

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I know what you mean about her seeming capable of having those kinds of emotions at such a young age. I sort of accepted this as her gaining the maturity of a 16 year old girl when she became full moon. Even though she seemed more like a 12 year old when she was actually full moon and vice versa. The memories she had of Eichi seemed to be just normal feelings of liking someone but were amplified by her current age whenever she remembered him. From what I've gathered it's not irregular for woman in japan to marry men much older than themselves. Just cultural differences I guess. Very Happy

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tcvu (#29913)
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heh

no she fell in ultra love with eichi when she was 10 ^^;

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i don't think she fell in love with echi when she was 7. She had feelings for him since they were good friends. I think she reliezed she loved him when he left her and that she missed him so much. Thats only my opinion.

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That makes sense, and certainly explains how she could recognize her feelings for Takuto so readily.

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I felt the same thing about the age difference. I didn't really understand how Eichi could fall in love with a girl who was 7. Maybe he saw her as more of a friend then lover =/.

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well i suppose there are no restrictions or (age) limits to love...perhaps he just fell in love with her as a person (not her age) since she was so innocent and cheerful.....then again i could be crazy :shock:

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that what was bugging me was (read not further if you haven't watched Full moon to the very end!) :

what the hell is takuto supposed to do with a 13 year old girlfriend?
i mean, he's in his early 20 Rolling Eyes
i agree that the time difference wouldn't THAT bad if he were um .. 52 and she 40
i can understand that they fell in love, but imagine that the anime would get continued, how weird would it look if a 22 year old would date a 13 year old? >.<


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ahaha! i was thinking about that too!!!

what WOULD he do with a thirteen year old girlfriend? i think they'd get over the age difference tho since hes sooo cute!!! ^^; and also, they went through a lot with each other, and he really DOES love her Smile

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heeheh. luckly the anime ended there and then aye? :p

i wish there were a dvd ripped release for this anime. ... and i just recently checked the price for the original japanese dvds... they were like 3900 yen each..... :shock:

arggg........... the art would look soo good on tv.... Cool ................
too bad the fansubs had that clock in the way...

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I didn't feel weird about it at all. I never really thought about it until now. *thinks* I still don't think it's weird. I felt that the love between the couples were real and something trivial like age shouldn't get in the way. Love can't be help.

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well u cant reali blame mistuki she has never had anyone realy to love her until she met eichi so i would say its fine

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I just thought of something else.

In the manga Izumi died when he was a little kid and when he because a shinigami he looks the same age as Takato and Meroko. When your a shinigami how do you know what age you are? and know when a relationship is approprete*sp?*

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sonydjsnmix (#48164) wrote:
I just thought of something else.

In the manga Izumi died when he was a little kid and when he because a shinigami he looks the same age as Takato and Meroko. When your a shinigami how do you know what age you are? and know when a relationship is approprete*sp?*


Uh... ok.. I'm going to try to field this..

Shinigami probably dont celebrate birthdays.. did they in the series? I cant recall..

Anyway.. If you are 16 and you die and become a Shinigami then in a year you turn 17.. Whether or not they keep track of age I would imagine is up to them.

A relationship I dont believe they are supposed to have them.. With humans anyway.. Though Meroko did date Isumi? (blonde Shinigami) i forget his name.

They can probably have relationships with each other but not with humans..
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Question of Age

The age question isn't so strange if you consider other serieses. Take Sailor Moon for instance. She's 13 and Mamoru (I think it's "Darien" if you watch dubbed) is a senior in highschool (18 or 19). I think it's more of a culturally directed thing.

People here don't have "serious" boyfriends or girlfriends when they're in middle school. But in Japan up until the '60's there was no legal age of consent. (The age of consent is now, last I read, 13.) If you notice, the age of consent here is between 16 and 18, and those are the ages that most characters pop culture stories are set at, if they're directed toward a younger audience. It's not unusual for a high school girl in a US series to be dating a college guy. In the same way, it's not unusual for a junior high girl in a Japanese series to be dating a high school guy.

Maybe I'm looking at it too logically/technically. But it comes down to the fact that it is fiction and represents an ideal about love and relationships, not about age. Very Happy

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I think legal age in Japan is 16.. In the USA .. It's something like 17.. I think.. LoL I live here and I dont even know..
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Ah! Maybe it was that there wasn't one until the '60's and then it was 13 and then they changed it--or maybe it was that it was 13 until the '60's.

What I mean is, there seems to be a general line drawn at the age of 13--we're still considered children in the US, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Japan.

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Lydie-chan (#57611) wrote:
Ah! Maybe it was that there wasn't one until the '60's and then it was 13 and then they changed it--or maybe it was that it was 13 until the '60's.

What I mean is, there seems to be a general line drawn at the age of 13--we're still considered children in the US, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Japan.


You are probably right about that.. I know that age is viewed differently in Japan.. and.. really.. it's also viewed differently in many different countries.. So I wouldn't doubt what you are saying..
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In Hungary the 'legal' age is about 18...
But i think if there wwere such a cute girl, like Mitsuki, even I could fall in love with her (even though im 18, almost 19), so once again age doesnt matter.

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Nova (#87582) wrote:
In Hungary the 'legal' age is about 18...
But i think if there wwere such a cute girl, like Mitsuki, even I could fall in love with her (even though im 18, almost 19), so once again age doesnt matter.

It's more about what you're doing in life, your thoughts and attitudes, especially about romance and love. Takuto's 24, not even 18. He's at the beginning of a career and family stage of life, while Mitsuki, at 13, fits in to middle school, is barely entering puberty, is going out with friends to swim meets and soccer clubs, playing in the park and going to school dances. What is she going to do, bring Takuto along?

Sure, in the middle ages 30 and 50 year-old men married 14-year olds, but that was because of the balance of power. In such times, the woman became an instant housewife and bearer of children, which is very unlike today.

But, of course, Mitsuki's a pop singer, so it's all different, but even in that regard, the anime portrays her as a schoolgirl, not a woman ready to have kids.

As for legal age, in Japan, the legal age of consent is 13, not even 18. I believe that's why Tanemura-san let her be 12 (so she'd be 13 at the very end). Still doesn't mean this type of relationship works in modern society.

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First of all, I wonder if everyone agree on "age of consent". Do you mean the age of legally having sex (without the guy getting arrested even if it is consented), or the age of getting married? I am fairly certain that the age of getting married in Japan is 16. If you are talking about the age of having sex, at least I do not see them doing it on screen Very Happy

As for romance in such a young age, isn't plenty of people have their first boyfriend/ girlfriend in their junior high (12-15)? The only difference is that the characters treated their first love more seriously. But remember, Romeo and Juliet is certainly at their early teens, and don't even forget the famous hikaru genji and Murasaki.

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kurama_evilfox (#85861) wrote:
As for romance in such a young age, isn't plenty of people have their first boyfriend/ girlfriend in their junior high (12-15)?
Umm... Mitsuki fell in love with Eichi long before that. I don't think any girl could fall in love at that age.
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I don't know if it was as much love as it was admiration if you're considering girls younger than prepubescent. But in the sense of a big brother-type figure, then yeah, it's possible that she could have had a sense of affection in that sense. Probably over time, it grew to an idealistic notion of love, especially if she harbored that affection or just had that sense of missing him in absence.

I wonder how I missed this conversation too Sad
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On the Takuto, being 22 or so and Mitsuki being 13, why can't that be? A 9 year difference in age that is not that much. I know people with more age difference.
Besides I would find it a bit weirder if Takuto was 30 or 40 and Mitsuki being 13, that happens to but well I find it a bit weird.
Anyway, love is what counts, love doesn't have age borders. Well that is for me, but ok I would find 20 or 30 years of difference a bit long.
You would be in another age generation and be doing other things then the other person.

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Daniëlle (#112444) wrote:
On the Takuto, being 22 or so and Mitsuki being 13, why can't that be? A 9 year difference in age that is not that much. I know people with more age difference.


Because there is *such* a huge gap in their mind sets. A 13 year old, no matter how mature s/he may come across, is still an adolescent. A 22 year old is an adult.

While 9 years may not be so significant when Mitsuki grows up to be in her early 20s, its still a rather large difference now.

Not to say this sort of thing doesn't happen or anything... I do have friends who have a larger age difference, but one of them wasn't 13.
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I agree with rose, that when the time Mitsuki and Elchi met, it is more of an affection. But then Mitsuki thought about Elchi every day (she don't have much friends before the series start) and after a couple years it became love. (I think this pattern is quite common in anime, which the guy being nice to a girl at a very young age, then years later the girl come at the guy saying she is in love with the guy. e.g. Mayu vs Kaoru in Ai Yori Aoshi)

About the age gap, Takuto is not the most mature 22 years old, while Mitsuki is way mature than a 12 years old. I guess both their mental age is about 16-18?

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Mitsuki's love for Eichi is more pronounced in the manga.
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Mitsuki had known from the beginning that Eichi was deceased. She didn't want to have an operation because she didn't want to lose her voice and because she wanted to join Eichi in death. She actually said "Eichi's waiting for me."

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cranston (#84421) wrote:
Mitsuki's love for Eichi is more pronounced in the manga.
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Mitsuki had known from the beginning that Eichi was deceased. She didn't want to have an operation because she didn't want to lose her voice and because she wanted to join Eichi in death. She actually said "Eichi's waiting for me."


I actually remember reading that (I read Full Moon's manga a long time ago...too long for this poor girl T_T).

Considering that-it is definitely an attachment in longing, even more emphasized with that.
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Nothing to buther about this..its a really good post..your posting style is exellent.

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Anderson (#136216) wrote:
Nothing to buther about this..its a really good post..your posting style is exellent.


Excuse me, but you're spamming. This thread is old. I wouldn't mind if you actually had anything useful to add to the discussion. But "your posting style is excellent" seems rather dodgy.

You're not here to comment on someone's posting style are you? Mr. English Professor?

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you are never too old/young to fall in love. however how you demonstrate that love is definitely subject to law.
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Innotech (#34417) wrote:
you are never too old/young to fall in love. however how you demonstrate that love is definitely subject to law.


BTW, I understand that the legal age in Japan is 13? So she's definitely old enough. Laughing
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in these types of anime series, I never think too much of it. I was absorbed into the innocent love story of her and Takuto. This series was aimed for a younger audience in Japan.

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Yeah! think she's really desperate full in love to Eichi as well her...what a love story...it kills me Twisted Evil

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