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Roy Mustang (#68169)
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Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 73
The thing is also that if you pick the one the other will go sad.. Feeling aren't easy to handle, and if that happened in a real life situation to me, I dunno really what to do. The logical is not allways the right way to make all people happy either..
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:33 am
jeff (#68752)
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Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 12
if i had a choice i'd choose Haruka. i think takayuki really still liked haruka and because of mizuki pushing herself on him that he fell for her eventually. dunno i already predicted the ending in like ep10 but i was hoping he'd choose haruka anyways. she is a victim the whole series and if anyone deserved happiness it be her. she lost 3 years of her life just to come back and find her b/f wif her best friend. i have to rewatch the series tho i didn't pay enuf attention iono why i just didnj't like mizuki that much. to the people who said realistically it should have been mizuki well were all real people and
i'd say its spilt pretty even the pepole that would shood mizuki and haruka.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:32 am
Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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Jeff, I hate to say this, but I think your English needs a little polishing up. I could hardly read your post. Your spelling in particular needs some working on.
I respect your opinion though. Yeah, a lot of people like Haruka. Whether it's sympathy or they really think she's the better girl, I don't know. Yeah, I liked her too. She's a very nice girl, and very gracious and giving in allowing Narumi to leave. But overall, I felt Mitsuki deserved Narumi more because she really gave her all to him and was his pillar of strength throughout the 3 years. Personally, if I was in Narumi's shoes, I'd choose Mitsuki too. Despite what happened between her and Shinji. Hell, I'm no saint either. Who am I to judge her. Besides, Narumi was almost the direct cause of what happened.
Now, the question of whether Narumi deserved such a strong and supportive girl like Mitsuki, that's another question altogether. That prick deserved no one. But if it makes Mitsuki happy, then so be it. But personally, I'd like to whup his arse a little for the pain he's caused to everyone. He certainly deserved a big stick inserted up his... I never hid the fact that I disliked him.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:56 am
ScarySoul (#94020)
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Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 5
i dont know actually... for some reason... i hated mitsuki... because it was because of her that haruka get involved in an accident and left her coma for 3 yrs... she even went so far by going out and having a go with their so-called bestfriend... and yet... they still blame narumi for everything thats has happen and everything that is happening... why is it his fault? because he cant give a direct answer? because he is indecisive? i dont know... but maybe... i think i would also be indecisive if i were to be in his shoe... lost between the memories of his first love, and the girl that has bring him out of the gloom (eventhough mitsuki has done that mostly because of her guilt for causing haruka to be involved in an accident)...
as a matter of fact... i still cant believe that mitsuki & narumi still kept the ring that narumi gave to mitsuki on her birthday... dont they realise that it was because of buying that ring, that haruka get involved in the accident???
yeah... i know its all about moving on and trying to cherish what you have right now... but i just cant accept the fact that he ended up with mitsuki due to the two reason that i stated above... infact... i think if it was other people instead of mitsuki (or if she didnt do the above reason)... i "might" have accepted it... infact... at some episode, i felt that he would be better off with akane... eheh... well... thats my 2 cent though...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:50 pm
Sai (#94630)
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Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 20
I think Takayuki's choosing Mitsuki was a better decision than choosing Haruka. Mitsuki had feelings for him for as long as or even before Haruka did. She kept saying how she betrayed Haruka but I don't agree with that. It's not like she moved to steal him away right after Haruka's accident. In the version I downloaded, along with the series it also came with an OST of some sort. Mixed in with the songs are intersting extras. One is the thoughts of Mitsuki after Takayuki bought her that ring. The other is the thoughts of Haruka right before the accident. From Mitsuki's thoughts, it is clear that she is aware that nothing can be done about her feelings for Takayuki and that she does have to concede to his relation ship with Haruka. She has no intention of ruining anything. Takayuki kept saying how he kept visiting Haruka out of responibility but if you ask me his resonsibility lied with Mitsuki. After Haruka's accident, she was a great support to Takayuki, without letting her feelings for him get the best of her. She continued to support him after they eventually got together which was two years or more. During this time, I believe they truely were in love. Takayuki's time with Haruka would have to been considerably less than a year (I'm not downplaying their relationship though. They were very much in love too.) He can't just abandon Mitsuki after all this and you can't say he never should have gotten in a relationship with Mitsuki becase there was no telling if Haruka would ever wake up or not. He can't just stay with someone in a coma forever. Three years did in fact go by and while Haruka's time stopped, everyone elses lives had to go on. Haruka said it very nicely herself: The Takayuki she knows and loves is the Takayuki from three years ago. That Takayuki (who solely loves Haruka) no longer exists. What happened to Haruka was a tragic accident and it's none of their faults even though Takayuki insists it's his becasue he was late meeting her or Mitsuki says it her fault (I don't know why. Maybe becuse she had him by her that ring which made him late.) or Akane says it's Haruka's fault. Why doesn't anyone think it's the fault of the person who was driving the car that hit Haruka. There's no one else you can blame. For Takayuki to abandon Mitsuki at this point and go back to Haruka now would be like saying "Thanks for all the love and support for the last 3 years. My old girlfriend is back so I'm gonna be with her instead. See you later."
Having said all that, I would have made a completely different decision altogether. It's clear to see that he loves Mitsuki and for good reason. But it's also evident that he still loves Haruka as well. You can see just how much she meant to him by his demeanor after the accident and its obvious that he still has feelings for her after she wakes up. Personally I would have got them both in the same room and had a nice long talk. Eventually explaining that I couldn't possibly choose one and forsake the other and I would rather have all three of us go back to being good friends rather that remove one of them from my life. Maybe I'd even invite Shinji too.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:46 am
ScarySoul (#94020)
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Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 5
watched KGNE for the 2nd time... and i somehow noticed this... did anyone ever thought that Narumi choose Haruka in the first place after what Mitsuki had told him at the hill top? Mitsuki told him that she only wanted to be close to them because of Haruka... and then, somehow you could see/feel through Narumi plain face as if to tell us that is not what he wanted to hear from Mitsuki and maybe he felt somehow being dumped by Mitsuki, and then when he met Haruka at the train station, that is when he made up his mind to love Haruka instead...
and then towards the ending... i think the reason why he managed to made up his mind was because of Haruka saying goodbye to him... again, he felt being dumped by Haruka, its only after that moment that he made up his mind to look for and choose Mitsuki... for some reason, i felt that should Haruka didnt say goodbye, he would have gone back to Haruka and left Mitsuki, judging from how he treated both of them...
anyone felt that way?
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:23 pm
Sai (#94630)
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Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 20
ScarySoul (#94020) wrote: watched KGNE for the 2nd time... and i somehow noticed this... did anyone ever thought that Narumi choose Haruka in the first place after what Mitsuki had told him at the hill top? Mitsuki told him that she only wanted to be close to them because of Haruka... and then, somehow you could see/feel through Narumi plain face as if to tell us that is not what he wanted to hear from Mitsuki and maybe he felt somehow being dumped by Mitsuki, and then when he met Haruka at the train station, that is when he made up his mind to love Haruka instead...
and then towards the ending... i think the reason why he managed to made up his mind was because of Haruka saying goodbye to him... again, he felt being dumped by Haruka, its only after that moment that he made up his mind to look for and choose Mitsuki... for some reason, i felt that should Haruka didnt say goodbye, he would have gone back to Haruka and left Mitsuki, judging from how he treated both of them...
anyone felt that way?
Not really. I don't really think Takayuki had any serious feeling towards Mitsuki until she confessed to him. It looked to me like the first time he truely fell in love with anyone was with Haruka, the second time he was with her on that hill. I think what Mitsuki said to him, might have caused him to look more carefully at Haruka though.
At the ending I don't think his decision would have been any different even if Haruka didn't say good bye. He would have just had more regrets about it. Haruka's saying good bye helped to bring some closure to the situation. My thoughts on it are in the thread, "Are you satisfied with the ending"?
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:21 pm
Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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Quote: As far as I can remember, Narumi had always had feelings for Mitsuki. When Mitsuki kept pushing for him to go out on a date with Haruka to the movies, he got pissed. When Mitsuki told him the "real reason" she got close to them, he was disappointed. When he was rushing for time to meet Haruka, he gladly stopped to buy Mitsuki a ring for her birthday. That, in my opinion, says a lot about who he really liked initially.
Well, that's my interpretation anyway.
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:08 am
Sai (#94630)
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Ken Hayashi (#52012) wrote: Quote: As far as I can remember, Narumi had always had feelings for Mitsuki. When Mitsuki kept pushing for him to go out on a date with Haruka to the movies, he got pissed. When Mitsuki told him the "real reason" she got close to them, he was disappointed. When he was rushing for time to meet Haruka, he gladly stopped to buy Mitsuki a ring for her birthday. That, in my opinion, says a lot about who he really liked initially.
Well, that's my interpretation anyway.
When Mitsuki and Shinji were talking to him about not inviting Haruka to the movies, it isn't really clear why he's upset. When he get's upset he only says two lines. One is, "You guys don't understand." Yeah, you could interperate this to mean that hes saying, "You guys dont understand, Mistuki is the one I like." but there's really no evidence that this is what he is implying. You could just as easily interperate it to be "You guys dont understand, I'm just not sure about my feelings right now." The second is. "I know that Haruka is your best friend." He doesn't actually say "know" or "best friend" but you can assume that's what he was implying. Nothing there particularly suggests that he liked Mitsuki either.
In the conversation where Mitsuki is telling him about why she got close to them, Takayuki has the same expression on his face almost the entire time. The one reaction he made was a quick "eh?" right after she told him the real reason she got close to him. But this is to be expected if one of your best friends suddenly tells you they had ulterior motives for getting to know you. Anyone would be surprised. After that he goes right back to the same face he had before and I assume that he is thinking about Haruka because that's probably what he was thinking about before she got there since everything up until that point after movie incident dealt with his relationship with Haruka, and Haruka is currently the topic of their conversasion. In the sceens that follow this, it shows him looking more closely at Haruka. Possibly as a result of what what Mitsuki told him about Haruka.
I wouldn't say he "gladly" stopped. He was about to leave her in the dust as he rushed of to meet Haruka when she suddenly told him it was her Birthday. And since Takayuki is nice to everyone he just made one more stop and got her a gift for the special occasion. It was her birthday and all. He even hesitates to buy her the ring because it is a ring. He takes the whole thing very lightly as well, telling her that she has to pay him pack ten times for his birthday and such. He proably would have done the same thing for Akane if it were she that he met.
The most proof probably comes from when he and Haruka were walking home from their first date, talking about the festival. When Haruka told him that Mitsuki had a boyfriend he reacted completely indifferently and showed no signs of concern at all.
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:13 pm
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Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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You forgot to cover your spoilers.
Sai (#94630) wrote: The most proof probably comes from when he and Haruka were walking home from their first date, talking about the festival. When Haruka told him that Mitsuki had a boyfriend he reacted completely indifferent and showed no signs of concern at all.
I totally forgot about that part.
But, I'm biased towards Mitsuki (because I really think she's a wonderful girl, and I love her a lot), so my opinions may have been swayed by that fact.
It'd look better (and make me feel better) if it had been what I thought it was.
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:47 am
Sai (#94630)
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Ken Hayashi (#52012) wrote:
It'd look better (and make me feel better) if it had been what I thought it was.
I do think he did have feelings for Mitsuki at first, just not very strong feelings. A slight fancy for her if you wanna call it that.
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When he met Haruka on the hill for the first time, he does show a little dissapointment when he thinks that Haruka was called by Mitsuki as well, not just him. But from that point on, I think any special feelings he had for Mitsuki disappears or steadily disappears.
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:35 pm
Caddberry (#27690)
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I spoiler tagged the subject line.. So now its a free for all on spoilers.. (open season) ~_^
Go Mitsuki!
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:03 am
Nathan Gomes (#102858)
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Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 75
Mitsuki bc she was way better looking. Taller, thinner and more athletic. Haruka was so down home, red headed little stepchild like. Aside from looks Mitsuki just had more personality--at least in the start before she turned emo. Basically it came down to the hair, she was tops before she cut it. After that it was all downhill.
But if I caught Mitsuki cheating she would have been FINISHED.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:40 am
Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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Nathan Gomes (#102858) wrote: But if I caught Mitsuki cheating she would have been FINISHED.
After putting her through all that misery, if Narumi doesn't accept that she made a silly mistake and kicks her out of his life, he's dead meat.
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:23 am
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