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Shintou (#31788)
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Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 38
We could be related, but we could be strangers Does anyone besides me just HATE when they say this? I thought they stopped saying it for awhile and WAM they say it again! And why does Karen and Miina keep doing things simultaneously... how annoying!
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:57 am
Freddy C (#31563)
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LOL!!! i pointed this out explictly in my review of OT, yes yes it was one of the most cheesy thing about OT, i just cant help to think that is this done delibrate to extremly highlight the point that they might be....etc or did they just run out of ways to end or continue a conversion between characters so they just bunged this in?
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:38 am
Wizard-of-Oz (#21859)
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I actually think that that saying was what made me completely dislike that series. That and the constant talk of incest. Nasty stuff.
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:28 am
ToxoT (#82125)
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Well I guess I am the only one who disagree with it. The saying might sound a bit cheesy after say 3 or 4 episode but it's there to constantly or deliberally remind the audience their current relationship since some viewer CANNOT connect with the story or the mood of the character. If you actually connected with the story and the character which means not watching the story as an audience or outsider but more as the character in the situation you probably wouldn't dislike that quote. I don't think you'll even realize they said that quote . That's how it was for me anyways. And I think that's probably why there are very few anime that I either hate/dislike or neutral, since most of them actually had good story.
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:08 am
Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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ToxoT (#82125) wrote: Well I guess I am the only one who disagree with it. The saying might sound a bit cheesy after say 3 or 4 episode but it's there to constantly or deliberally remind the audience their current relationship since some viewer CANNOT connect with the story or the mood of the character. If you actually connected with the story and the character which means not watching the story as an audience or outsider but more as the character in the situation you probably wouldn't dislike that quote. I don't think you'll even realize they said that quote . That's how it was for me anyways. And I think that's probably why there are very few anime that I either hate/dislike or neutral, since most of them actually had good story.
I actually agree. Though that saying begins to get to you after a while (it IS cheesy afterall), but it really distills the mood of the series into that one short sentence.
We have to remember that all 3 of them are orphans.
Quote: And while Karen had the luxury of living with loving foster parents, I don't think Maiku and Miina were as lucky (Miina lived for a while with a classmate's family but left home after her knee injury from the accident). Still, all 3 of them were looking to reunite with their blood relations. This longing and also the fear of finding out the ugly truth (they may not be related) hangs heavily in the air throughout the series. That statement "We could be related, but we could be strangers" is very appropriate in this series and conveys the mood of the series pretty well.
I actually found that I liked this much better than Onegai Sensei.
If you thought the OVA was incestous, wait till you watch the special epiisode!
Quote: Karen sleeping in Maiku's bed, wanting to kiss him....
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:10 am
cranston (#84421)
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Gotta agree with Ken 100%.
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:12 am
Yabin Suzunashi (#87839)
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I was a little annoyed by the repetition of that relative-or-stranger juxtaposition, as if those were the only choices. And, indeed, it turns out that the girl who isn't his sister was their childhood friend.
But, in the course of my erratic language studies, I found a relevant feature of the Japanese language that goes a long way toward explaining it. It's one of those us/them dichotomies that you find in every culture. In this context, everybody is classified and labeled with a word that we can easily translate as "relative", or with another that is most simply translated as "stranger", but would be more precisely translated as "anyone not recognized as a relative", regardless of any other connection.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:47 am
Thomas(akaTammo) (#57694)
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But Yabin... after all... we could be family! *starts to gaze at Yabin with big teary eyes, suddenly shifts, like struck by a totally new and UNEXPECTED idea* But!!!! We could be strangers!
Yeah, precisely. I must say, Yabin, I recomend You greatly the lecture of review done by Kaj on this series.
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Especially the part about that line... :-)
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:34 pm
charn (#40191)
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Thomas(akaTammo) (#57694) wrote: But Yabin... after all... we could be family! *starts to gaze at Yabin with big teary eyes, suddenly shifts, like struck by a totally new and UNEXPECTED idea* But!!!! We could be strangers!
Yeah, precisely. I must say, Yabin, I recomend You greatly the lecture of review done by Kaj on this series.
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Especially the part about that line...
I like Onegai Twins ..
But I gave it a low rating (6.5) because it's another anime which although I like but I can't recommend .. (as of Agent Aika) because it's crap ..
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:48 pm
cranston (#84421)
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Quote: I like Onegai Twins ..
But I gave it a low rating (6.5) because it's another anime which although I like but I can't recommend .. (as of Agent Aika) because it's crap ..
Don't understand. Could you reword?
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:29 am
Yabin Suzunashi (#87839)
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I finally followed that link to Kaj's review. (Gee, Kaj, don't hold back; tell us what you really think!)
Toward the end of his review, Kaj asked what gives with Matagu's nosebleeds. The answer is simple: it's a conventional usage in manga and anime, at least partly influenced by Japan's century-old anti-abscenity laws. A nosebleed is the standard euphemistic substitute for an erection.
Matagu gets nosebleeds all the time because he's a frustrated letch.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:56 am
xin (#102823)
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As with elfen lied and FMA, this one had a lot of recurring phrases as a boost to its theme. Im on episode 5, and i think this is a marginal anime. Perhaps better than green green tv, cause at least it has some trace of suspense. I'm enjoying it enough to finish
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:52 pm
cranston (#84421)
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xin (#102823) wrote: Im on episode 5, and i think this is a marginal anime. Perhaps better than green green tv, cause at least it has some trace of suspense. I'm enjoying it enough to finish
You seem to be contradicting yourself. If you enjoy it, it can't be marginal, right?
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:10 am
shadowfox (#102560)
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On the whole I actually enjoyed Onegai Twins more than Onegai Teacher ... even though I gave it a lower rating overall ...
Despite someone somewhere saying that it was impossible to connect to the characters in any way, I found this to be miles from the truth ... Despite one or two flaws this was a very good series.
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:36 pm
Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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shadowfox (#102560) wrote: On the whole I actually enjoyed Onegai Twins more than Onegai Teacher ... even though I gave it a lower rating overall ...
Despite someone somewhere saying that it was impossible to connect to the characters in any way, I found this to be miles from the truth ... Despite one or two flaws this was a very good series.
Cheers! We think alike.
I think, whether you connect to the characters or not depends a lot on your past life experiences. I could connect to the characters and feel for them. That's why I preferred Onegai Twins to Onegai Sensei.
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:36 am
shadowfox (#102560)
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A lot of people seem to have a huge problem with the whole incest thing ... people ... incest is defined as sexual relations between two closely related people ... none of that actually happens in Onegai Twins.
I know Karen spends a lot of time holding on to Maiku - think about it this way:
Here is a girl who's single lifelong wish was to meet the brother in the photo. So now she's 16, she's met him - had I been in a similar situation I wouldn't let my sibling go either. Put that together with the fact that she does love him - come on guys, get past the whole incest thing (I think some people are a bit obsessed about that) and look at the whole story for what it is.
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:18 pm
cranston (#84421)
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shadowfox (#102560) wrote: I know Karen spends a lot of time holding on to Maiku - think about it this way:
Here is a girl who's single lifelong wish was to meet the brother in the photo. So now she's 16, she's met him - had I been in a similar situation I wouldn't let my sibling go either.
I thought the whole clinginess was anime exaggeration. Sure it was cute, especially the final OVA episode, but it can't happen in real life. Still, a sister like that would be really cute.
~cranston (who's displaying severe oniichan syndrome)
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:58 am
shadowfox (#102560)
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cranston wrote: I thought the whole clinginess was anime exaggeration. Sure it was cute, especially the final OVA episode, but it can't happen in real life. Still, a sister like that would be really cute.
Well, believe it or not ... my one friend is in that sort of situation ...
His sister is not quite as clingy as Karen, but you if you see him then all bets are on that she's nearby.
As for myself ... I once had a Mai-HiME situation (Tate & Shiho). But I have to agree with you ... a sister like Karen would be cute ...
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:24 am
Ken Hayashi (#52012)
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cranston (#84421) wrote: I thought the whole clinginess was anime exaggeration. Sure it was cute, especially the final OVA episode, but it can't happen in real life. Still, a sister like that would be really cute.
~cranston (who's displaying severe oniichan syndrome)
I have a 21 year old cousin who is still as clingy till this very day. She's in Australia now.
Thank God.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:36 am
cranston (#84421)
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Ken Hayashi (#52012) wrote: cranston (#84421) wrote: I thought the whole clinginess was anime exaggeration. Sure it was cute, especially the final OVA episode, but it can't happen in real life. Still, a sister like that would be really cute.
~cranston (who's displaying severe oniichan syndrome)
I have a 21 year old cousin who is still as clingy till this very day. She's in Australia now.
Thank God.
A sister'd be cute. From the POV of one who hasn't a sister. A cousin, on the other hand... Let's not go there. *shudder* Is she single?
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:58 am
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