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manu (#68214)
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 in love with elfen lied... *Spoilers*

hi every body!
happy to find a site where i'll may can discuss seriously about anime...
well I think the tittle of this post is explicit...I like horor and gore anime.
I think I had never seen a such good one as elfen lied...of course the classics are not dethroned...but this one will become a legend...I hope...
now, if you know another anime you think is such good as this one...then tell me...I just want to appreciate every opinion...
thx, see ya !

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please post your opinion in Elfen lied forum as Elfen Lied has its own forum. I love Elfen lied too, but I made a thread about it in Elfen lied forum. How to get there ?? Try hard and you'll find out..

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moved to elfen lied section
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I have just started to watch Elfen Lied... Very Happy It looks really cool so fare Wink
Got to see the rest to day or to morrow.
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ZtriDer so far You probably know it is VERY weak Very Happy
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Why I love Elfen Lied?

*******************Spoiler*******************

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The first reason is' it's astounding animation. Drama like onegai teacher-animation blended with brutal violence. The genius opening in this modern days of hit-song openings. Never seen so well-described opening of the series itself.

But the reason why I personally love it is because of the beauty in spite of the violence. Lucy has done something horrible. But still Kouta chooses to love her. When they embrace and we see their memories together I can't stop crying.

In spite of what Lucy has done doesn't mean she has no right to be loved.


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Yes, Tritonus, she does have this right, however in the series the moment when Kouta shows this love is kinda.... not convincing.

And also it reminds me of
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serial killers and their victims falling in love?

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Thomas(akaTammo) (#57694) wrote:
Yes, Tritonus, she does have this right, however in the series the moment when Kouta shows this love is kinda.... not convincing.

And also it reminds me of
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serial killers and their victims falling in love?


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Maybe the love wasn't that well expressed from Kouta himself, yes. But during their embrace the memories of them together proves a happy time. Kouta had lost these old memories, and when he remembers her as his old friend, one can still feel a devotion in the scene. At least I do.

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Tritonus - Welcome to the forum please read the rules.. Mark and cover spoilers properly.. Read the FAQ to learn how.. I fixed it for you this time.
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gah,,, Saw the whole serie today. Elfen Lied must be one of the best animes I've ever seen, seriously. Everything from animation to music, characters to story, everything was great.

Was it just me who almost / or did cry at the last ep?


tooo much for me Crying or Very sad

I'm hoping that ep 14 will solve some of the things at the end of ep 13 ,,,

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Episodes 5, 8, 9, 10, 12 and 13 got me quite teary. It amde me care about those characters a lot. So seeing what happened to them in those episodes really ripped my heart out.
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I'm in love too.

Yes! Great movie! Wink Got 2 go! Very Happy


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hohoja (#17420) wrote:
gah,,, Saw the whole serie today. Elfen Lied must be one of the best animes I've ever seen, seriously. Everything from animation to music, characters to story, everything was great.

Was it just me who almost / or did cry at the last ep?


tooo much for me Crying or Very sad

I'm hoping that ep 14 will solve some of the things at the end of ep 13 ,,,


I don't cry a lot but the last episode did the trick, and I did the most I can ermember during an anime during the Kurama director-daughter final scene...and to a lesser extent during Kouta's and Lucy's scene (not that it's less relevant, just that the fate of the daughter and director and the way it was done, with the quick flashback before was more painful for me).

P.s. yes I know this topic was from 15 days ago

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Shikama (#66793) wrote:
hohoja (#17420) wrote:
gah,,, Saw the whole serie today. Elfen Lied must be one of the best animes I've ever seen, seriously. Everything from animation to music, characters to story, everything was great.

Was it just me who almost / or did cry at the last ep?


tooo much for me Crying or Very sad

I'm hoping that ep 14 will solve some of the things at the end of ep 13 ,,,


I don't cry a lot but the last episode did the trick, and I did the most I can ermember during an anime during the Kurama director-daughter final scene...and to a lesser extent during Kouta's and Lucy's scene (not that it's less relevant, just that the fate of the daughter and director and the way it was done, with the quick flashback before was more painful for me).

P.s. yes I know this topic was from 15 days ago



*********SPOILERS AHEAD****************

With Kurama and Mariko, when he carried her away from the battle, I instantly remembered the explosives inside Mariko and knew what would happen next. After all that time that Kurama had tried to force himself to believe that his daughter was dead, going so far as to say he killed her, and then finally accepting his daughter for who she was. He had to have known what he was doing by carrying her away and what it meant for the both of them, but while I cried for Mariko and Kurama when the explosives inside Mariko's body detonated, I cried harder for Nana. For her entire life she looked upon Kurama as her own father and would do anything for him just so he would be proud of her, but in the end he took back his own daughter to Nana's shock and Nana watched as Kurama was killed in the explosion. For Nana, who had only had existed only for Kurama to be proud of her, I'm surprised she didn't go suicidal right then and there.

In the case of Kouta and Lucy, it was true that Kouta loved her but couldn't forgive her for killing Kanae and his father. It was nearly impossible for him to bring himself to acknowledge what Lucy had done and forgiveness was still a long way away, but he also couldn't just go and change the feelings he had developed for her. In the end, because Kouta couldn't forgive her for what she had done, Lucy decided to end her suffering when she did not defend herself from the police....

What I don't get is was that really Nyu at the door at the end of the episode or was it just Kouta's imagination?

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Either way, one of the best animes I have EVER seen ^_^
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Splitter (#11007) wrote:
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[spoilers!!]

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Yeah, Nana's fate was also an important factor and although she was one of the best characters IMO, she had Kouta and Mayu as new friends. It used to be Kurama was the only thing which kept her alive, so she doesn't need Kurama as much as she used to, which is why of coruse she didn't go suicidal. But also Kurama just seemed like such a complex person that the final moment was too much....

Also about Lucy, I don't believe she died, didn't her vectors shoot up before the final moment. But her horn did get shot off - and without her horn she is Nyuu again (until they grow back)...well....I should really read the manga ;-_-

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Shikama (#66793) wrote:
Splitter (#11007) wrote:
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[spoilers!!]

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Yeah, Nana's fate was also an important factor and although she was one of the best characters IMO, she had Kouta and Mayu as new friends. It used to be Kurama was the only thing which kept her alive, so she doesn't need Kurama as much as she used to, which is why of coruse she didn't go suicidal. But also Kurama just seemed like such a complex person that the final moment was too much....

Also about Lucy, I don't believe she died, didn't her vectors shoot up before the final moment. But her horn did get shot off - and without her horn she is Nyuu again (until they grow back)...well....I should really read the manga ;-_-


Even if Nana did make friends, you can't overlook the fact that Kurama was all she lived for for her life up until then. Even in the end when they were at the table eating, it was obvious that Nana was a long way to go before recovering from the realization that she is not Kurama's daughter and that the man she had lived for for so long is dead. But with the help of her new friends, she lives on to have what Lucy herself could not...... happiness.
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Yeah, I guess that's a good point too, years of the Director being her father was probably more effective than weeks of Mayu and Kouta anyways.

Also I'll also mention that it was good to see the Diclo. (Lucy and Nana) help each other (sort of) at the end against a common enemy, instead of letting them pit them against each other.

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[quote="Splitter (#11007)"][quote="Shikama (#66793)"]
hohoja (#17420) wrote:
gah,,, Saw the whole serie today. Elfen Lied must be one of the best animes I've ever seen, seriously. Everything from animation to music, characters to story, everything was great.



*********SPOILERS AHEAD****************

With Kurama and Mariko, when he carried her away from the battle, I instantly remembered the explosives inside Mariko and knew what would happen next. After all that time that Kurama had tried to force himself to believe that his daughter was dead, going so far as to say he killed her, and then finally accepting his daughter for who she was. He had to have known what he was doing by carrying her away and what it meant for the both of them, but while I cried for Mariko and Kurama when the explosives inside Mariko's body detonated, I cried harder for Nana. For her entire life she looked upon Kurama as her own father and would do anything for him just so he would be proud of her, but in the end he took back his own daughter to Nana's shock and Nana watched as Kurama was killed in the explosion. For Nana, who had only had existed only for Kurama to be proud of her, I'm surprised she didn't go suicidal right then and there.

In the case of Kouta and Lucy, it was true that Kouta loved her but couldn't forgive her for killing Kanae and his father. It was nearly impossible for him to bring himself to acknowledge what Lucy had done and forgiveness was still a long way away, but he also couldn't just go and change the feelings he had developed for her. In the end, because Kouta couldn't forgive her for what she had done, Lucy decided to end her suffering when she did not defend herself from the police....

What I don't get is was that really Nyu at the door at the end of the episode or was it just Kouta's imagination?

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****SPOILER***


What do you mean by Lucy ending her suffering? if she would end her suffering it couldnt be her at the door. Or what? Im still confused about the horn flying of, what does that mean? that she doesnt have any powers left or what?

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Splitter this is ridiculous.. I posted in this thread for someone to PROPERLY MARK SPOILERS. I have said time and time again just typing

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Does not work.. Read the FAQ to learn how to properly do it.. And of course after you did that the new people thought it was ok too..

After 70 posts you should know how to properly do it.. I'm not going to take the time to fix the whole thread, but it is now deviated from being something someone could come into and read without watching the series to something that someone had to have completed. Basically, it ruined the thread for the author, and anyone else that hadn't seen the series.

Warning Issued: Splitter (#11007)
Reason: Properly Cover Spoilers


I tagged the thread with a spoiler tag so covering spoilers or designating them is not necessary..

kefxx & Shikama - Just because one person breaks the rules doesnt mean you can. You both should have read and know the rules of the forum. I wont give you warnings because you are new. Please read the rules!
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Jesus tapdancing Christ, what a ride!

Don't have much to say other than that I strongly second the notion put forth by the topic title. Just posted a long freakin' review on the ANfo series page. Been looking for a forum to discuss this series since I finished it a couple days ago.

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Elfen Lied is the best Anime i've seen so far. I've seen it 3 times now and every time I find some new symbol that I had overlooked. It got a very universal theme and its VERY sad. To me Elfen Lied is becomming a "cult" series...

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Defninitely a cult hit considering that it's broken through the top 5 on this site and I had never heard of it before stumbling into it by blind chance. It *should* be a smashing success.

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Sixfortyfive (#75771) wrote:
Defninitely a cult hit considering that it's broken through the top 5 on this site and I had never heard of it before stumbling into it by blind chance. It *should* be a smashing success.


WAHAHAHA!!!! I was so happy to come here this morning after seeing it drop to #7 a week ago to find it's blasted past Last Exile AND Fruits Basket! WOOT FOR ELFEN LIED!!!! GO BUY IT ON DVD MAY 17TH!!!!
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The 14:th Episode sucked though... I bearly managed to wach it. If they had named it "Elfen lied an ordinary day" Or something freken else i could have enjoyed it much more but no they named it 14 so that you thought it would reveal atleast something about the so "CUT" ending in EP 13...

Anyone know if they will make anymore episodes? Since i fear the worst i guess not

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Actually, it wasn't called episode 14. It was labeled as just "EXTRA" on the JP DVD.

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Ya it was a great anime, pretty much everything about it. That was more or less a first anime I have seen like that in that genre so I dont know any others like it yet. It is one of my top 3 favorites ^^

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I LOVE ELFEN LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

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I feel sorry for myself that I rewatched Elfen Lied ! If you people enjoy Elfen Lied on your first watch, don't ever rewatch it. Once you rewatch it, you will feel different. In my first watch, there was a lot of things going on .. the violenct scenes appear unexpectedly, and the fact that the violent scenes appear here and there and I was not aware of them appearing, it kinda sidetracked me to actually notice that this anime is superficial with all the issues it brought up. Once I know the plot and know what is going to happen, my attention automatically shifted from anticipating for the next violent events to analyzing the characters' interaction .. and sadly, I immediately noticed how superficial all the events and the characters are. Elfen Lied is no longer my Top 10 favorite anime ... Sad

As I said, don't rewatch this at all if you like it the first time .. had I not rewatched it, I am sure my good memory of this anime would remain and I'll still hold it in very high regards. As for now, I don't even know what scores I should change it to .. Considering how much I really like it in my first watch, I think I'll still place it in the green zone .. but my impression of this rewatch alone is actually a neutral one. How sad ...
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I think Elfen Lied was a good anime, but i was in a way disappointed by the ending. I liked the fact that it was very intense, and made me think about the little pleasures of life that i don't cherish every day (even though i should).

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That's exactly what I think. Just as KGNE, it gave me a reason to think about simple things, and how we think those things are normal. We never think about the fact that something could happen, and that the things we are used to might change.

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If you think about the fact that Kouta met Lucy way before, what would have happened if he didn't? Would she have killed him in a blink, or would he naver have helped her, because she wouldn't have "remembered him of his sister, Kanae."


That's why I like this anime. It is not just gore, it contains a deeper story if you think about it.

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elfen lied is the best anime i've ever seen...

the first time i watched it fully i nearly cried because it was so sad.
i had never felt in that way my whole life
and i probably never will feel like that from something anything else.
the story made a massive impact on me
the music made a massive impact on me
what i would give to actually be there...

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I dont care how gore it is. It has a beutiful story, damn strong emotions. After i watched Ep 13 i culdnt sleep at first. Needed to be cheered up by some Love Hina / Chobits first

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im also in love with this anime, i watched it in a row.. just couldn't stop..

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hohoja (#17420) wrote:
gah,,, Saw the whole serie today. Elfen Lied must be one of the best animes I've ever seen, seriously. Everything from animation to music, characters to story, everything was great.

Was it just me who almost / or did cry at the last ep?


tooo much for me Crying or Very sad

I'm hoping that ep 14 will solve some of the things at the end of ep 13 ,,,


well i couldnt stop crying in episode 12.. and the others were teary for me... i think it is mostly because of the music.. Those dramatical music still makes me feel emotional when i hear them

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I loved that anime, it was really great.
The ending was a bit disappointing thought... Felt like they could have done so much more with this anime.

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elfen lied is the best anime i've ever seen...

the first time i watched it fully i nearly cried because it was so sad.
i had never felt in that way my whole life
and i probably never will feel like that from something anything else.
the story made a massive impact on me
the music made a massive impact on me
what i would give to actually be there...


Yeah, I totally agree with you, actually that's also true for me. The second time I watched the ending, especially the scene where Lucy and Kouta kiss, and the memories come back with this incredible music it really brought me to tears...
I also never felt this way in my whole life...

Days later I am still completly taken aways and sad... you're right, what would i give to actually be there... I would probably give my life away for that...

Really it was so incredible and had such a tremendous emotional impact, one for the story, other for the music, and other for the way it was shown... I think those are the reasons why most people find it so good.

Maybe, in my Dreams, shall I once really be there...

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"Elfen Lied" conjured up some unusual emotions in me, as well. I've really never seen anything quite like it, and I'd say it is pretty consistently emotionally charged past the halfway mark (how I managed to stay interested up until then remains something of a mystery, though). There were so many things that could have been better in the series, yet, by the end, I don't think I was busy caring about the myriad faults.
I was shaking in my seat as those kids killed Lucy's dog, I smiled as Kouta and Lucy played as children, I was mortified as Nana left to face Mariko alone, and episode 13, as a whole, was almost able to get me to cry (if only I had managed to marathon the entire series...grr...catharsis, you elude me yet again!).
"Elfen Lied" is the first series for which I considered it a definite possibility that my favorite characters would die. I even thought the main protagonist might die. On an intellectual level, that uncertainty is very appealing.

On a different topic, Ouguiya, watching "Elfen Lied" is more powerful than being there for that moment. What would you do were you there? The cinematic and emotional experience is maximized in the presentation you've already viewed, for you are more in-tune with the characters than you would be if you were there. Case in point, you wouldn't have the music, which is a major component in the emotion of the scene. But, after all is said and done, I think I know what you're saying, and I agree with the basic essence of the statement.

Geez, I hate that reality/fantasy divide. Why is it that fiction like this is so appealing? What is it that makes us want to be a character in a story? Is it simply because the emotions are already written in as overwhelmingly intense? Is it the feeling of having a purpose? Why am I waxing philosophical in an anime forum? Why do I think anything I wrote is worth reading, and therefore worth posting?

...

Yeah, I'm done (for now).

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Gee ^^ I love philosophy. Though, this post is not meant for it, still what concerns Elfen Lied...

Well perhaps you are right, the statement "I wish I was there" was maybe not meant the way it was... Actually really beeing in that world... I don't know, the music would really be missing, and then the story would take ways which I would have to influence myself to keep it going good...

No, actually, that's not what I meant, that is correct. What I more meant is, what I would actually give to just dive into that world, sort of, watching the movie, but in a complete dark and silent room, where nothing distracts or disturbs me, where I can just watch this.

And what I also meant, was of course, that I would wish to see how it continued. It nearly teared me apart not to know how the story REALLY ended... I mean of course, there are at least a thousand hints that it's Lucy standing out there, and you just have to look at the manga to know that it's really lucy who is out there, and yet still... You can never be sure... It's this uncertainity I think which adds a good portion to the movie.

The music, too, I have to say, I already got sad just hearing it, but watching the last episode, especially the one where Kouta and Lucy talk was way too much for me...

For me, Elfen Lied is without a shadow of a doubt the best Anime I have ever seen, in fact, it's also a thousand stars better than any movies, series or books that I ever saw/read.

I'd almost die for another episode, and for the continuing of the story...

But oh well, I'm getting emotional again, I just hope for more to come from the Elfen Lied anime.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:59 pm
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