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Kerropi (#27614)
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Aphrodite and Eathmask good or bad?
Hi everyone,
I am new here but a very big fan of Saint Seiya.
After seeing the HAdes Chapter I saw the Bronze Saints cry about the Gold Saints after ARIES Shion told them the truth about their true intentions.
Seiya said even Aphrodite and Deathmask played along in order to save Athena. So i am a bit confused are they bad or good??
Ur Thoughts
K.
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Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:44 am
Dark Lord Dragon (#7942)
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Hi there Kerropi, how are you doing! Well I am very pleased to meet another Saint Seiya's fan, welcome to Saint Seiya's forums... Well the same question is ringing in my head, because as I know that Death Mask was always evil, if you see his temple in the Sanctuary's chapter you will see that he has the heads of his victims even a kid too (If I remember well) so he likes to kill people, which gived me the idea that Death Mask is really an evil character, but once again, if Death Mask was evil then how in the hell he got his Gold Cloth!! I know that the Gold Cloth shattered into pieces while fighting Shiryu, but if he was really evil then why he gained this cloth in the first place...
Well In Hades they give us the idea that Death Mask is really not an evil guy, true maybe he likes Violence but still he is loyal to Athena so that's why he played along, maybe he was evil in the first chapter coz of the Pope's couraged him to kill Athena's and the bronze boys or something like this, I really can't give you a 100% answer! Hope to see the other people opinion... See ya
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Donald (#9703)
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Hi Kerropi, welcome to the forum ...
Deathmask and Aphrodite personality looks confusing, like Dark Lord Dragon said ... how can an evil character deserve a gold cloth ? ... Maybe, it's right that both of them only like violence but very loyal to Athena.
I can understand if Pisces Aphrodite is said to be not evil, but maybe little cunning (We can see that he stabbed Cepheus Albior from the back when Scorpio Milo attacked Andromeda Island). As for Deathmask, the many of dead people faces carved in the Cancer Temple is a question whether he's an evil character or not. But nobody kill (many) people and put their face on his/her holy place except an evil cold-blooded personality or psycho. Deathmask's personality is so confusing.
But maybe I can add
that when they went for the Gold Cloths for the first time, (maybe) they were still good and very talented persons
... After many years of being respected of becoming a Gold Saint and only few people can equal to both of them, they become arrogant and evil little by little.
For Deathmask ... The evil culminated when Deathmask fought Dragon Shiryu in the Cancer Temple, even the cloth itself felt angry and left him finally for his unforgiveable and endless evilness. So that, it proved that the Gold Cloth only for the good people. Why was it so long in Deathmask's body all the time ? Maybe ... Just maybe, the Deathmask's cosmo is so strong that the cloth could not refuse his will until Shiryu weaken him so that his power was not strong enough to hold the cloth's rebellion in his body.
For Aphrodite ... Not evil, just cunning and too egoistic ... But he's loyal to Athena ...
But why in Hades Chapter, there were some embarassing moment about both of them while fighting with Rhadamanthys ... I just can say the evil/cunning personality of both hasn't been disapperared completely (eventhough, they joined the other Black Gold Saints led by Shion to Sanctuary with a certain purpose unknown by Hades). As we know, the more evil and cunning someone behaves in his/her life, the more coward and careless and weaker someone has become. As for Deathmask and Aphrodite, his power are the weakest among other "good-personality" Gold Saints ... Never reach the peak those should be.
I hope the Hell Chapter OVA will give Deathmask and Aphrodite a more second chance to reform themselves of becoming true Gold Saints (Don't forget that Hades Chapter - Sanctuary was modified in quite different changes from the manga - So we still can hope) ...
Well, that's my opinion ...
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Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:49 am
Dark Lord Dragon (#7942)
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Quote:
Donald:
But maybe I can add that when they went for the Gold Cloths for the first time, (maybe) they were still good and very talented persons ... After many years of being respected of becoming a Gold Saint and only few people can equal to both of them, they become arrogant and evil little by little.
This gives the best Explanation for Death Mask and Aphrodite's case... Because if they were really that evil then they can't get the Gold Cloths, still there is some confusion about Death Mask but as we see when a flashback of Shion when they talk about their real purpose, we see that Death Mask shows that he agree and doesn't have any complaints but as we see we can tell he is not an evil character!!
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Donald:
But why in Hades Chapter, there were some embarassing moment about both of them while fighting with Rhadamanthys ... I just can say the evil/cunning personality of both hasn't been disapperared completely (eventhough, they joined the other Black Gold Saints led by Shion to Sanctuary with a certain purpose unknown by Hades). As we know, the more evil and cunning someone behaves in his/her life, the more coward and careless and weaker someone has become. As for Deathmask and Aphrodite, his power are the weakest among other "good-personality" Gold Saints ... Never reach the peak those should be.
I agree, it's really shame to call them a Gold Saints, because I never saw one of the Gold Saints asking for help...etc Yet even if he was an evil I can say that Rhadamanthys is also an evil character but he is not a coward, but we see how he dared to stand against Seiya's "Pegasus SuiSeiKen" or else he will be scared just like the others who faced Seiya's attack, I don't think it's because they are evil that's why they were scared, but I guess it was because the first appearance of Hades's Strongest warrior, so they wanted to show how incredible he is so maybe that's why they did this, but anyway that's pretty shame... But yet I still can't say that Death Mask is the weakest, I mean look Aldebran have been killed by Deep Niobe!! It was pretty shame to see a gold saint like Aldebran being defeated by this weak Specter of Hades... Also don't forget that Death Mask has strong attacks such as
Sekishiki MeikaiHa
as you know this attack sends the opponent to Hades and can never easily come back, so even Rhadamanthys realized that this attack is dangerous so he avoided the attack, I think if Death Mask used this attack against Aldebran I think Aldebran will be in a serious problem...
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Donald:
I hope the Hell Chapter OVA will give Deathmask and Aphrodite a more second chance to reform themselves of becoming true Gold Saints (Don't forget that Hades Chapter - Sanctuary was modified in quite different changes from the manga - So we still can hope) ...
I hope that too but sadly I don't think they will appear again, I mean there only chance to appear is when the Gold Saints want to destroy the wall, so it's hard to see them again, but maybe now since Dokho and Kanon has also entered the Hades, there is still chance to See Dokho in action once again
because in the Manga he only appears when they face the wall.... Anyway I really wish to see Death Mask and Aphrodite one more time as a true gold saints...
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