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[menda (#43265)]

 I love the Seisouhen! (MAJOR SPOILERS!!!)

[Stick (#5576)]

Menda

I understand your new to the forums, but PLEASE READ THE FAQ AND RULES when you join forums for the first time.


You gave away MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS BY TELLING PEOPLE THE WHOLE ENDING.


Quote your spoilers properly and please read the FAQ, so you'll know how to properly make a spoiler.

[Ryan (#41733)]

this is the one anime that made me cry.

[Sango (#57263)]

[hakkai (#25024)]

i would like to repeat what stick said. sango what you said is still kind of a spoiler.

[Stick (#5576)]

there's a spoiler warning label at the top hakkai. it's alright for them to not use spoiler tags.

[Nifty (#29681)]

But this is an anime discussion thread and he's using manga spoilers. I don't think the tag warns them approprately in this instance.

[gosaimasu (#50743)]

Half of me didnt like the ending because Kenshin died. The whole humoristc mood of Rurouni Kenshin was destroyed by this OVA.However, the other half of me knew this would happen eventually, and it was good that Kenshin got to see Kaoru one last time before he passed away. Either way, its depressing after watching this OVA, so I had to watch the last episode of the series to get over it. [/quote]

[Bardack (#52583)]

This OVA is pure garbage IMO.
It took a LONG part of the manga and made it lasts about 20 minutes. This really sucked. Then they invented the events after that. The end Kenshin meets here ... well ... irritates me.
Well this is one of the things that I pretend I've never seen and I'll keep sticking with the Ruruoni Kenshin manga.

[Kaj (#32327)]

gaaaaaaaah I don't understand. The beginning and the end don't match!!! In the beginning we see him drowning and at the end we see another ending... can someone please explain to me what's going on???

[Caddberry (#27690)]

[Nifty (#29681)]

On his way back from whatever journey he was on, he fell of the ship into the waters below. I think Sano saved him because the next scene that I remember Sano nursing him back to health.

Whatever happened, he died a the end of the movie, not in the water.

[Kaj (#32327)]

Hmmm.... I can't find the bit when Sano saves him. The earliest I see him is when he turns up on his horse and sees Kenshin sitting on the rocks at the edge of the sea.

PS I'm talking about Kenshin ova2. I assumed people knew what I meant cos this is the forum for it.

[Nifty (#29681)]

Unfortunetly I won't be able to watch it again until Wednesday at the earliest. If I remember by then I'll have to check it out to be certain. I purchased it shortly after the initial release and I haven't rewatched it since then.

[slippy (#46880)]

The new director's cut is worth seeing BTW; it's a little heavier than the OVA, really nails home the depth of Kenshin's burden.

[Thalan (#44961)]

But I like this part of the manga much more. They should sticked to the manga all the way instead of using the 2 later stories in RK TV. Since the manga totally crushes the anime to dust.

[Nifty (#29681)]

[Thalan (#44961)]

Honestly I don't know but I would have prefered to see the manga story in the anime instead. But some parts of the manga story are Reminiscence and Seisouhen. So maybe they wanted to save them til the makings of OVAs. As I said I don't know.

[slippy (#46880)]

Show got cancelled before they could get to the Jinpuu arc. There wasn't actually an ending to the TV series; they added a post-series coda as a cookie for the fans.

Big problem with Seisouhen is that, in using a selective memory to retell the Jinpuu Arc, they got to interpret Kenshin in a way that Watsuki didn't really intend. The Kyoto arc is an epic adventure story. The Jinpuu Arc is both a character study and a final judgement on Kenshin, by the one person who has the greatest right to punish Kenshin. The entire Kenshin storyline, with the Jinpuu arc, becomes a 3-part Greek act, where his whole life finally comes full circle.

Seisouhen takes that away. While it's plausible that he may have gone in that direction after the manga, it's also rather dishonest how they got him toward that path. That being said, in the director's cut, there's a heartbreaking scene where Kenshin opens up to Kaoru. It's not only you get the sense of his despair underlying his heroic posturing, but that in a way, you also sense he's helpless and a little pathetic. It's completely believable. Plus there's another sequence where Kaoru has never looked more beautiful.

But I'm glad Reminisence was done as a movie rather than TV series. It's the one part where the anime is much stronger than the manga; the director elevates the Kyoto/Jinpuu back story into a Kurosawa-esque epic, which would have been highly unlikely as a TV series. Tomoe is given a level of depth that doesn't exist in the manga. The script has historic and philosophical exposition that doesn't exist in the manga version. You come away from it knowing the darkness of Battousai's soul is the tragedy of that era of Japan itself.

[nauXolo (#69311)]

I find this OVA tough to get through. I had read the manga and I much rather have gone with that ending then kenshin's being lost in China. Despite his loss of legendery-ness, I find that there is a decent ending with the whole new generation cycle where his ideasl are carried out by his son but in a different form

Although having scar disappear was something that I felt a bit ambivalent about.

I also didn't like how they tried to fit the whole brother thing in such a short span. There is this one scene in kenshin's manga about kaoru (is that her name) that totally shocked me and I think should have attentino diverted to it.

This OVA wasn't that great in comparsino to the first one , as most people would definitely agree but it isn't a bad thing to see after wtching the series.

[Twisted (#79033)]

SPOILER
This OVA was kind of a dissapointment...
First episode was all about the past. N when u finaly got to see something new like tomoes brother n so on it ends before it starts... rather sad ending as suspected... MAN i realy wanted a happy ending after all this unhappiness

Well Kenshin will still be number one Anime thnx to nothing but the first OVA n nothing more since the serie was okay but there are better n this last one was a dissepointment.

A question since i havent read the manga... How does it end for Kenshin in the Manga series?

[nauXolo (#69311)]

From the manga, if they somehow made this into a series
i think a few people would have heart attacks
A HUGE SPOILER>

[slippy (#46880)]

About that . . .

[Jinchuu Crusader (#100569)]

Seisouhen isn't something I consider to be truly RuroKen. You can't just take a manga's ending and then tack something else on to it and call it canon. I may sound like a narrowminded manga nazi, but I believe in sticking to canon. The OVA could've been great if they'd animated the Jinchuu Arc the way Watsuki wrote it.

Everything in Seisouhen past the first part is filler. In the manga: