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animeghost (#110106)
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final fansty the holy grail of gaming
i own ff4 to 10-2 and tatics and tatics advance im getting 12 and 13
but personaly 6 or 7 is the best
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:30 am
nauXolo (#69311)
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So... I'm watching the FF12's Special DVD "History of Final Fantasy" which takes you through all the final fantasies and what the main story was generally about.
Now... I'm really curious about these games and I'm wondering if anyone knows which games I should try.
Final Fantasy 6 looks the most interesting of all the ones pre-FF7. But any suggestions would be nice
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:07 pm
Annûniel (#90354)
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Final Fantasy VI by far my favorite Final Fantasy ever made. I believe its far superior to any Final Fantasy made before it and any since. But that is just my opinion
Final Fantasy VI should be released to the GBA shortly. I believe it came out in Japan recently (or in the very near future). I believe it will come out in the US in March or something. Of course I can't remember exact dates anymore, so feel free to correct me.
I enjoyed Final Fantasy IV as well. I believe that's worth your investment. Final Fantasy I was rather entertaining, especially with a complete lack of storyline and character development. I thought I wouldn't like it much at all (I mostly play games for their storylines and character developments), but I couldn't really seem to put it down. Granted I only played through it once, but I'd say if you liked VI and IV, you should look into I. Unfortunately, you can only get I if you get II with it and II is terrible.... I think I've known a few people who like it, but for the most part everyone agrees that it's bad. Bad gameplay, poor storylines, and boring characters...
And though I haven't played it, I've heard very good things about III. I'd recommend that one to you as well.
I didn't much care for V, but it was mostly the poor translation that threw me off. I believe they retranslated it for the GBA so I'm willing to give it another shot. If you liked the battle system in III (similar to X-2 in that you get to choose your character's class), you'll probably like this one too.
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Final Fantasy VI is AWESOME!
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:26 am
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Yes, Ann is correct saying VI is awesome. Slap in a new makeover for the game (PS2 at the least.) and you'd be seeing a masterpiece equalling VII. Wishing a true remake for this.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:30 am
nauXolo (#69311)
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Hm... I guess I'll do FF6 then.
What US platform is it for? Can I get it for the playstation?
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:31 am
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nauXolo (#69311) wrote: Hm... I guess I'll do FF6 then.
What US platform is it for? Can I get it for the playstation?
Yes, FFVI is available on the Playstation. It was released with Final Fantasy V on the Final Fantasy Anthology. The loading times are somewhat annoying sometimes and the sound quality isn't as good as the original. But it is playable.
If you have a Gameboy Advance or a DS it will soon be re-released on the GBA as Final Fantasy VI Advance.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:42 am
Daizengar (#99576)
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Annûniel (#90354) wrote: I believe its far superior to any Final Fantasy made before it and any since.
I dont exactly understand this statement. I agree final fantasy 6 is a great ff and reached a very high standard for its time but i dont think its far superior to the pre-ffs especially ff2 (japanese) Just because it didnt make it to the US doesnt mean we shouldnt count it as a true ff. Imo, ff2 is the one that laid the foundations for the latter titles which really makes it special and memorable.
FF1 was a success but what the developers did was trying to make a game similar to the then more successful franchise Dragon Quest in an attempt to revive the resource-waning fledgling company known as Square hence the title 'Final Fantasy'. It is true that if ff1 didnt do well in the market, there will b no more Square let alone ff. But through a gamers perspective, i find that ff2 being a pioneer in introducing RPG-1st game mechanics was a bold move which paid off in the long run (caused some lag with the technology back then).
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:55 am
bloodyrain (#114484)
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Final Fanstasy is so popular yet I never found it to be anything spectacular. It's a good series, but there are other RPG's out there that are way better IMO. To me the best RPG ever is Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne.
Anyhow if I had to pick a favorite FF game it would have to be FF6. I just found it to have the best storyline and the best characters. I also like FF9 because it went at a completely different angle. It was unique and I like that. To each their own I guess.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:13 pm
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I dislike most SMT games because the party members are just cannon fodder with no personalities. The only exception to this was DDS. This is also the reason why I like most FF games. The characters usually have enough personality and background that they have a face and you don't think of them as 'Grunt 1' and 'Grunt 2'.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:18 am
angelfire (#114725)
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Final Fantasy [b]Final fantasy 7 is definately the best, i have played so far I am currently playing 12 which I am sure that anyone who enjoys Final fantasy games is, if they have not already beaten it, I am getting ready to go fight altima and of course I am having trouble getting around crystal grande anyone who knows a good site i can directions from(gamefaqs does not have a single helpful guide to me) or Just can give me thorough directions Pleassssse help. thank you
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:24 am
kazi (#88254)
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bloodyrain (#114484) wrote: Final Fanstasy is so popular yet I never found it to be anything spectacular. It's a good series, but there are other RPG's out there that are way better IMO. To me the best RPG ever is Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne.
Anyhow if I had to pick a favorite FF game it would have to be FF6. I just found it to have the best storyline and the best characters. I also like FF9 because it went at a completely different angle. It was unique and I like that. To each their own I guess.
Yeah FF in general is somewhat overrated. Somewhat, because some FF games are not as popular as others. For example, FF7 is regarded as the best FF game, the best RPG, or simply the best game ever made, and by a whole lot of people too. It's very overrated. Sure it's good, but overrated never the less. FF9 on the other hand was not as popular, but is imo the best in the series.
I do agree that there are better RPG's out there. The characters from FF games don't compare with those from Tales games. And what I like in an RPG is good characters and dialogue which the Tales series excels at. They kinda fail at gameplay though. And the only Dragon Quest game Ive played was 8, and it's easily one of my favorite RPG's out there. I never played the more serious RPG's though, like SMT or Shadow hearts, but I hear they're good too. It's just that FF games have pretty good gameplay and the highest quality production. As in best graphics, sound, FMV's etc. But what I really appreciate in a game is the effort put into making it. I know games like Tales don't have the same budget that FF games do, but you still get a great game in the end.
If I'm to give an example, I'd say FF games are like cookies you get from the store, and the best brand at that. But a game like Tales of Legendia, or DQVIII, those are like home made cookies. They have more heart in them, though they may not be exactly like the store's.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:48 pm
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kazi (#88254) wrote:
If I'm to give an example, I'd say FF games are like cookies you get from the store, and the best brand at that. But a game like Tales of Legendia, or DQVIII, those are like home made cookies. They have more heart in them, though they may not be exactly like the store's.
Very well put there. That sums up what I think of Final Fantasy as compared to other RPG's.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:45 pm
Daizengar (#99576)
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kazi (#88254) wrote: Yeah FF in general is somewhat overrated. Somewhat, because some FF games are not as popular as others. For example, FF7 is regarded as the best FF game, the best RPG, or simply the best game ever made, and by a whole lot of people too. It's very overrated. Sure it's good, but overrated never the less. FF9 on the other hand was not as popular, but is imo the best in the series.
I do agree that there are better RPG's out there. The characters from FF games don't compare with those from Tales games. And what I like in an RPG is good characters and dialogue which the Tales series excels at. They kinda fail at gameplay though. And the only Dragon Quest game Ive played was 8, and it's easily one of my favorite RPG's out there. I never played the more serious RPG's though, like SMT or Shadow hearts, but I hear they're good too. It's just that FF games have pretty good gameplay and the highest quality production. As in best graphics, sound, FMV's etc. But what I really appreciate in a game is the effort put into making it. I know games like Tales don't have the same budget that FF games do, but you still get a great game in the end.
If I'm to give an example, I'd say FF games are like cookies you get from the store, and the best brand at that. But a game like Tales of Legendia, or DQVIII, those are like home made cookies. They have more heart in them, though they may not be exactly like the store's.
I would like to know what u mean by 'overrated'. Is it because lots of people dont like it yet the fanbois love it? Or is it because u played the game after recommendation by a 3rd party and find it uninteresting?
If it's the latter, DQVIII is overrated as well. The story is linear. The battle system is simple. The characters arent interesting. The OST sux so much i mute it. SMT and Shadow hearts however are fantastic IMO. SMT gives a new type of gameplay as well as raising the difficulty plateu. Shadow Hearts has powerful characters and great storyline.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:43 am
nauXolo (#69311)
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i'm asssuming u mean shadow hearts covenant as shadow hearts 1 is the worst game in the world.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:58 am
Daizengar (#99576)
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nauXolo (#69311) wrote: i'm asssuming u mean shadow hearts covenant as shadow hearts 1 is the worst game in the world.
Yea i played covenant. I've nvr played Shadow Hearts 1.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:45 am
kazi (#88254)
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Daizengar (#99576) wrote: I would like to know what u mean by 'overrated'. Is it because lots of people dont like it yet the fanbois love it? Or is it because u played the game after recommendation by a 3rd party and find it uninteresting?
If it's the latter, DQVIII is overrated as well. The story is linear. The battle system is simple. The characters arent interesting. The OST sux so much i mute it. SMT and Shadow hearts however are fantastic IMO. SMT gives a new type of gameplay as well as raising the difficulty plateu. Shadow Hearts has powerful characters and great storyline.
By overrated I mean that many people view it as the best thing that ever happened. This is mainly FF7, but FF games in general are regarded as the best RPGs, and that's what most people say. But in truth, there isn't anything under all the good graphics that makes them more than your every day "good" RPG. They aren't all perfect, though FFIX was a truly great game (and it wasn't anything as popular as 7). I do play FF games, and am a fan of the series. Currently I'm playing FFIII DS, which is a great game. But I still think the series is overrated because it's the RPG series that's mostly talked about, but there are other RPGs that are easily just as good, if not better.
As for DQ, I thought it was great. I don't think the DQ series in general is overrated, because I've never heard of the series until 8 came around. Even then, alot of people (mainly FF fans used to easy games and lots of pretty lame poses) hated the game. The story isn't really any more linear than all the other RPG's out there. You save the world in the end, like you always do. But it was executed very nicely, and it had it's own unique style that really appealed to me because it didn't constantly try to look cool or "badass". And the men looked like men to boot. Speaking of which, it had great characters like Yangus in it, and they had some pretty good dialogue and humor in there. It didn't take itself so seriously and end up falling on its face like, say, kingdom hearts did. Now kingdom hearts is a perfect example of why japanese games can get on my nerves sometimes, with all the posing.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:01 pm
Inner_Sakura (#110062)
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I've played all the FF games and Tactics or anything near FF.
The ones I love the most would go to FF6 For it's stroyline.FF7 Also for it's stroyline and characters. FFX for it's battle system,storyline and graphics.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:36 pm
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Inner_Sakura (#110062) wrote: I've played all the FF games and Tactics or anything near FF.
The ones I love the most would go to FF6 For it's stroyline.FF7 Also for it's stroyline and characters. FFX for it's battle system,storyline and graphics.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:32 am
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kazi (#88254) wrote: I do agree that there are better RPG's out there. The characters from FF games don't compare with those from Tales games. And what I like in an RPG is good characters and dialogue which the Tales series excels at. They kinda fail at gameplay though.
Actually, I think the recent Tales of the Abyss was a failure in terms of good characters and dialogue. Tale, like any other series, are interspersed with good stuff and bad stuff. The advantage that FF has is that they didn't have any bombs.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:27 am
Daizengar (#99576)
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kazi (#88254) wrote: As for DQ, I thought it was great. I don't think the DQ series in general is overrated, because I've never heard of the series until 8 came around.
Do you know that Square created Final Fantasy (the very 1st installment) to be similar with Dragon Quest because DQ was more popular and succesful?
I agree that every Final Fantasy is not perfect but saying that there's no superiority over other RPGs except graphics is plain wrong. The presentation is the FF series have been solid and the OSTs have proved to be top notch. The story setting and character design deviates so i cant comment on that generally. The only 2 FF installments that i'm disappointed with are FFX-2 and FF12.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:59 pm
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I played the earlier FF games that were released on Nintendo and SNES. I don't own any Sony systems I've only played a little here and there of most of the other FF games on friend's systems. I did play FF: Crystal Chronicles when that came out and unlike most I've spoken with I enjoyed it a lot! I'm really looking forward to the sequel on Wii. ^_^ Tactics Advance was also really good and as of last year I got heavly into FFXI. I've seen that they released FFIII for DS, if anybody has it or has played it let me know how it is because I'm thinking of getting it as my next DS game.
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:22 pm
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I recently came across this rather hilarious video on YouTube. I thought about posting it in the Random Video thread but I think it'd get more attention here.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_c6EkWp79co
Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious!
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Rioko (#106909)
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sorry if im bumping a dead topic (Not too long..)
FF7: First FF game i played, i wasnt a hardcore RPGer back in the day so didnt really play it that much (Kinda young so didnt know much about that stuff) but then i really started it up, and its a great game, great story.
FF8: Loved it after the 2nd chance i gave it, i love the junction system, the draw system, its marvelous imo. great story, great characters.
FF9: not too many people liked this one, but i loved it. AP System was nice (In a way, made me work hard) Some characters lacked (Fat blob who rocks a fork, lol) but all in all, the story in a way waaasss lacking, but in a way i kind of enjoyed it, main character turns out to be something you wouldnt expect, yata yata
FF10: Great game, loved the story, all the characters had their own little part into the story which made it more interesting. All in all great Game.
FF10-2: Loved the Battle's thats about it, i kinda got a "Little" into the story because it made me wonder what happend to Tidus but then again made me not wanna know because the end of the original was perfect to me, but i had to play it, loved the ability to change your jobs, and while in battle as well. All in all, so so in my book.
FF11: Loved it at first, i was a hardcore on and off (Make sense? lol) FF11 player for 3 years. But, the game is too depending on others. Starting at around level 10 (Not mandatory, but possible) You can start Partying to kill monsters to earn Exp. But then that becomes Mandatory that you have to Look For a Party all the time. That becomes time consuming, and sometimes you get people who are just dumb, but thats how it is in almost any online game. Though i did like how the game missions did have somewhat of a story to them. not just a "Here lets go online and just level uP" type game, theres more to it. all in all, good game if you have alot of time on your hands.
FF12: Liked it, Didnt Like it. License's were ok, story lacked too much, battle's were pretty decently fun. all in alll.. not much to say about this one, its fun for a while.
FF-Tactics: Beat it, but didnt like it too too much (Ps Version) Didnt like how you needed JP to learn how to use a potion and stuff, but that wasnt soo soo bad, over all great game with a story to it.
FF-Tactics Advance: Loved it. Great story, loved the choices of jobs, pretty good.
All in all, those are the FF Games that i have played. Ive played 1, 2 and 3 (or 6.. w/e that little mix up was about lol) but didnt beat them. Love the FF Series.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:46 pm
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Annûniel (#90354) wrote: Final Fantasy VI by far my favorite Final Fantasy ever made. I believe its far superior to any Final Fantasy made before it and any since. But that is just my opinion
Final Fantasy VI should be released to the GBA shortly. I believe it came out in Japan recently (or in the very near future). I believe it will come out in the US in March or something. Of course I can't remember exact dates anymore, so feel free to correct me.
I enjoyed Final Fantasy IV as well. I believe that's worth your investment. Final Fantasy I was rather entertaining, especially with a complete lack of storyline and character development. I thought I wouldn't like it much at all (I mostly play games for their storylines and character developments), but I couldn't really seem to put it down. Granted I only played through it once, but I'd say if you liked VI and IV, you should look into I. Unfortunately, you can only get I if you get II with it and II is terrible.... I think I've known a few people who like it, but for the most part everyone agrees that it's bad. Bad gameplay, poor storylines, and boring characters...
And though I haven't played it, I've heard very good things about III. I'd recommend that one to you as well.
I didn't much care for V, but it was mostly the poor translation that threw me off. I believe they retranslated it for the GBA so I'm willing to give it another shot. If you liked the battle system in III (similar to X-2 in that you get to choose your character's class), you'll probably like this one too.
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Final Fantasy VI is AWESOME!
Seconded 100% hands down, Final Fantasy Vl is by far the best. It was also the first Final Fantasy to have a mature atmosphere and I believe was one of the first to actually games have a character try to commit suicide (depending on wether or not you saved Cid.)
lV on my list takes second place. But MAN was that game hard. Has anyone played the original Japanese version? Good god....
And that is followed up by lX.
Hmmm... Has anyone noticed the gradual decrease in the over all coolness of the main characters?
Examples:
Final Fantasy l/ll/ll: Really not much for actual characters, thus excluded.
Final Fantasy lV: Cecil, a Dark Paladin bad-ass who ends up redeeming himself and saving his kingdom (and the world). Awesome main character.
Final Fantasy V: Despite ranking with X-2 as one of the worst (in my book), it still managed have a main character with a relative bit of coolness. If only for his imported name.... Butz.... LMAOROTF.
Final Fantasy Vl: Due to the way this game presented the story, it felt more like there were two main characters instead of one. Those Being Terra and Locke. Terra was first the main character to be a female. And due to her past and her story involvement actually turned out to be quite memorable. Locke is... Locke. XD
Final Fantasy Vll: Cloud... We all know Cloud. This is where things started to get bad. Not that Cloud was bad per say, but he was terribly underdeveloped (Cloud himself, not his past). Though he still managed to pull off some hefty coolness despite shortcomings.
Final Fantasy Vlll: This is were the suckbomb was dropped concerning main characters. Squall... An Emo kid with ADD. The most one dimensional Final Fantasy character ever. But by no means the worst. Like Cloud, he has his qualities.
Fina Fantasy lX: The last Final Fantasy to have a somewhat decent main character. The problem is this game is more a compilation of all the previous Final Fantasies than actually was it's own game. So it's really hard to judge Zidane being that he's sort of a make up of all the previous main characters. But all in I'd say he was decent.
Final Fantasy X: It's like they just gave up. I swear. They grabbed a hat, threw in a few basic chracter traits and randomly pulled out a couple. Unfortunately those included Hyper, Stupid, Amateurish, Stupid, Loud, and Sucky.
Final Fantasy X-2: This is what I like to consider SquareEnix's experimental drug phase. Because that's the only way they pulled this atrocity off, drugs. Really bad drugs.
Final Fantasy Xll: *Sigh,* Slightly better than Tidus, but only by a slim margin.
It's like in their attempt to target a younger audience (it's obvious that's what they're doing) they forgot that how to create a main character who could deal with the aftermath of puberty.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:48 am
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I've played trough 9 and 10, tried 10-2 but something didn't really click in it, so I havn't got past 30 mins of playtime with it (yet).
Just bought XII now, havn't tried it yet gonna wait until I have a vacation or something so I can play it every day for some time =)
I've been wanting to try 7 and 8, but havn't found any working versions for my ps2 yet as they are ps1 games.
Must say I really loved ff9 though very cute, and nr10 was also very good.
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:33 am
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Yeah Photle, gotta try 7 and 8 guarantee that you will love them. Finally someone agrees with me that 9 was pretty cute game to play lol.
you can probaly go to any Gamestop and look in the Used Games for Playstation and they should have one or 2 of each, the one near me does. but they are the types of game to keep in a collection (To some) but should be a few. Can also try Gamestop.com or some sort of Online Shop, but if your like me and your parents dont like giving out the credit card info.. then yeah first option.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:57 pm
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yea think I have to aquire them by some means =)
the problem I've had with the other versions I've tried is that it wont recognize my savegame, I did buy a ps1 memory card, but it was an aftermarket card so I think there's something fishy about it, not sure if it was the game or the card that did it =)
and yes indeed nr9 is very cute and a good game alltogether =), played trough it 2-3 times, love the music aswell
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:46 pm
Rioko (#106909)
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It has been confirmed that they are making a new Final Fantasy to add to the Crystal Chronicles for the Wii... now i have to buy a Wii, i totally loved playing it with my 2 other friends on the Gcube... though in those type of multi player gamers im the greedy one of the bunch and have all the good equips
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:23 pm
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Im a deeply rooted final fantasy fan. As you can see...
I've played 7, 8, 10, 10-2, 11, 12. So far, nothing has surpassed 7.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:11 am
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My favourite FFgame is FFIX. I do agree that some of the other games has better story, more developed characters etc.. but I think that IX is the game with the biggest heart. I just loved playing it, the atmosphere is so good and the somewhat cuter characters made me enjoy that game more than the others. The overall feeling is what makes me like it so much
I don't really understand why so many people think that final fantasy VII is the best. I do think it's a great game, but not the best. Maybe the story was too dark for me and I didn't really like the characters so much, I had problems finding a favorite character which I usually tend to do pretty quickly. In ffIX I did instead have the problem of liking all of the characters too much^^
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:44 pm
Daizengar (#99576)
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inso (#124862) wrote: I don't really understand why so many people think that final fantasy VII is the best.
The main reason ff7 is regarded the best is because it is the first RPG that ventures into the 3D realm, just like Zelda: Ocarina of Time.
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:50 pm
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A lot of people enjoyed how the FFVII story was well put together also. There wasn't really any "magic" as to why things happened. I mean there was magic but nothing so riduculously unbelieveable. Most things that happened were driven by science reasoning. i.e.
Quote: That fact that the members of SOLDIER where given super abilities due to them being implanted with Jenova's cells.
My favorite FF's are III/VI, It's VI released for the PSX, and III for the SNES, It's the one with Locke and Terra, VII, and VIII, I am not too sure why i enjoyed VIII, but I enjoyed Squall and Rinoa.[/u]
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FFVII is indeed a great game and having 3d grafics so early may have helped in making it so popular, I don't really know since I played it about 1.5 yrs ago.
The story is really good also and I do think it is the story that -as in all ffgames- makes it so good.
It's just that there are so many good games and it's hard to decide which one is the best or which one I like best, maybe I'm just a little sad because ffIX (my favourite) seems so underrated and isn't as loved as VII.
But it seems that people in this thread loves ffVI as much as VII,, I should really try playing VI since I haven't yet.
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:42 pm
Ch1pPy™ (#106014)
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FF7 is not that great! Geez! Maybe Sephiroth and Cloud has the most bad ass rivalry on the series, but that alone doesn't make FF7 the best ever. Seriously, I know we can excuse the graphics of course, but the storyline isn't even the greatest, like most people say.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:00 pm
Veleon (#124559)
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The reason why people like FFVII isn't logical. People just tend to pick it as their favorite because when it first came out it was this big deal so everyone liked it then. So becase a huge group of people liked it, then everyone joined the bandwagon a decade later. And the people who are gaming loyalist don't want to "betray" FFVII because it was a big deal then, and holds a special place in their hearts.
FFVII is my favorite, probably because of that reason, but VI/III (Locke and Terra) and VIII were close behind.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:56 pm
Daizengar (#99576)
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Veleon (#124559) wrote: The reason why people like FFVII isn't logical. People just tend to pick it as their favorite because when it first came out it was this big deal so everyone liked it then. So becase a huge group of people liked it, then everyone joined the bandwagon a decade later. And the people who are gaming loyalist don't want to "betray" FFVII because it was a big deal then, and holds a special place in their hearts.
It is no ordinary bandwagon. It is THE FFVII bandwagon. FFVII was the damn-best RPG when it first came out so it became the holy grail of RPG. FFVII became a religion that RPG gamers followed and thus it became tEh best FF ever. Further FF releases might be better but the fact that FFVII has its own on-growing cult overshadows any doubts of a overhaul.
An obvious question thus surfaces: Why FFVII? It could've been FFIII, FFXI or any FF title prior to seven for that matter. My conclusion is 3D graphics. Visual impact is the most important aspect for any game and the introduction of 3D graphics just blew the contest out of the water. The impact was so great all the other positive gaming aspects magnified and negative aspects eliminated. 'One winged angel' was voted as best FF music of all time but to me it sucks big time. Cloud is considered the virtuous hero of FF with his buster sword but to me he's the 3rd sorriest reason for a main character (Vahn no.1 and Squall no.2).
In the end, nothing about FFVII is special except its break-through in graphics.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:14 pm
Veleon (#124559)
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Daizengar (#99576) wrote: In the end, nothing about FFVII is special except its break-through in graphics.
Well, Omni-slash is my favorite limit break.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:08 am
Daizengar (#99576)
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Veleon (#124559) wrote: Well, Omni-slash is my favorite limit break.
Squall's a loser and his Lion Heart still creams Omni-slash. Heck, KOTRT-mimic-HP absorb owns FFVII, not omni-slash.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:53 am
lordbrolli (#129207)
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Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 32 Location: Texas
Final Fantasy Final Fantasy fun I am a big fan of Final Fantasy. I personally like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance the best. Final Fantasy 8 is my second favorite. I cant wait for Final Fantasy: Revanent Wings to come out for the DS.
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:43 am
Annûniel (#90354)
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Re: Final Fantasy Final Fantasy fun lordbrolli (#129207) wrote: I am a big fan of Final Fantasy. I personally like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance the best. Final Fantasy 8 is my second favorite. I cant wait for Final Fantasy: Revanent Wings to come out for the DS.
? I could have sworn I already saw that at GameStop a few weeks ago...
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:23 pm
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Re: Final Fantasy Final Fantasy fun Annûniel (#90354) wrote: lordbrolli (#129207) wrote: I am a big fan of Final Fantasy. I personally like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance the best. Final Fantasy 8 is my second favorite. I cant wait for Final Fantasy: Revanent Wings to come out for the DS.
? I could have sworn I already saw that at GameStop a few weeks ago...
It may allready be out. I havent checked in a while, and I havent read anything about it so I wonder if itll use same fight style as FFXII since its the sequel.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:04 am
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If you saw it out, then a store broke the release date. It's not supposed to be out till later this month.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:51 pm
Mishie (#105444)
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They put little Preview cases up on the shelves, but that's all they are; empty cases with advertisements slapped across them. They're made to look like the real deal, but upon closer inspection, it's quite clear that they're fake.
From my experience, there's always a "Coming Soon!" banner right below them, but I've only bought stuff from 1 GameStop store so.. yeah. :3
Anywho, Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings is scheduled to ship November 20th. I don't think I'll buy it right away, but I'll definitely rent it, since a RTS on the DS sounds promising enough~ ^^
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:20 am
Annûniel (#90354)
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Mishie (#105444) wrote: They put little Preview cases up on the shelves, but that's all they are; empty cases with advertisements slapped across them. They're made to look like the real deal, but upon closer inspection, it's quite clear that they're fake.
From my experience, there's always a "Coming Soon!" banner right below them, but I've only bought stuff from 1 GameStop store so.. yeah. :3
That's probably it, thinking back, they didn't look real, but I thought it was just the fact that it was sold out and they were advertising that they had them. They weren't under any "Coming Soon" banner, but instead were in the section that was labeled "New Releases" which made me think they were out... >.>;
It sounds like its just the GameStop that's stupid. Don't like them much anyways, I just go in there to be bored sometimes.
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:49 am
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Continued from another thread...
cranston wrote: @veleon
The way I look at it, Cloud had already embarked on his quest even before that happened to Aeris. And the whole thing with Aeris and Tifa was so shallow. I just don't feel the connection Cloud has with them although I get their feelings for Cloud. Weird, huh? Overall, I think Squall and FF8 was much better
Annûniel wrote: Agreed. I mean Cloud just didn't seem to have emotions, whereas Squall repressed them for a time. Cloud didn't feel like he had a connection with Aeris or Tifa... He just sort of recognized them as "there." But Cloud was designed with the stereotypical "stoic badass" in mind I think.
veleon wrote: Well no matter what we think about cloud from the game, he was not nominated from the game, he was nominatedfrom AC, which like cranston said, gave Cloud some depth. Looking back, I see that most Final Fantasy games have really bad leads, as they have to be the single most bad-ass person in the game. All of them pretty much suck except for Locke Cole and Terra, which if Locke had been in an anime, I totally would've nominated him.
I don't agree with that. In the last 3 releases of FF, the leads been rather wussy. Zildane, Tidus, and Vann (IIRC). These characters aren't "bad-ass". "Bad-ass" is what I would call Auron (his entry scene into the stadium was so.... cool!).
In terms of character depth, I would say Squall and Tidus were decently done. I don't remember Zildane much so no comment on him, and Vann was completely characterless after 10 hours into the game which I never finished.
Squall's transition from a merc just doing a job into a caring and determined leader was gradual but believable. I especially love the chemistry with Rinoa. However, for Tidus, the transition from brat to self-sacrificing hero was a leap. I would think that it'd be better to handle the discovery of the dream in a fatalistic manner. Nobility in this instant is out of character for Tidus.
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